Author	Topic:   Bind & Loose
Brother Kenneth J. Boone	posted 3/24/05 11:46 PM       Greetings. I would like to know what the correct bilbical interpretation is of the scripture, when Jesus says to Peter, "what soever things you bind on earth will be bound in heaven and whatsoever things you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven." I am asking this question because for years, I have been taught incorrectly, concerning this matter. Over the last year God, through the Holy Spirit has lead me to see this in the light of it's original intent. To begin with, in times past I would verbally say, "Satan, I bind you in the name of Jesus." I learned how to study the bible and realized that Jesus never told us to SAY that phrase. I did not realize how out of context I was with the interpretation of the text. I thouroughly understand it now and the work involved in binding the enemy has to do first of all with our COMPLETE OBEDIENCE TO GOD, so that we are able to spoil or plunder the goods or possessions of the strongman or demon. Satan has right to our lives as long as we walk in disobedience to the word and will of God. Can someone who is Biblically sound and in submission to God, expound on this please. Thank you.
Jim Johnson	posted 3/27/05 0:57 AM       I agree with you completely about obedience to the Lord. Matthew 18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. This is just another way of telling us how to deal with satan. When Jesus died on the cross at satan's hand, satan shed innocent blood. Because satan shed innocent blood, Jesus won a victory over satan. The victory over satan was that Jesus could put satan in prison. The prison that Jesus chose was the earth. Jesus put satan on the earth and changed him to where satan had to have a little air to breath. One place this is spoken of is when Paul referred to satan as the "prince of the power of the air" in Ephesians 2:2. Jesus then gave all people the power to put satan in the pit with a simple command saying, "satan in the Name of Jesus, I cast you and your helpers into the pit". When Jesus hears this from His children on earth, he then puts satan in the pit. One reason that Jesus died was to have control over satan and so Jesus does not miss a chance to put satan and his helpers in the pit at anyone's command. The word "bind" means the same things as putting satan in the pit. When you "bind" satan, you put him in prison. When you "loose" satan, you let him get away with things. Never worry about the words you use as long as you use the power that Jesus won on the cross over satan by telling satan that you are binding him in Jesus's Name. After I wrote this, I realized that you used the verse when Jesus was talking to Peter. Both verses say about the same thing and mean the same thing.
Moroni	posted 3/29/05 5:10 PM     That was a different viewpoint of that scriptiure, Jim. I am so grateful for the Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ. I actually have the true meaning of that scripture, but it has nothing to do with dealing with Satan. If you want to know how to deal with him look at how Jesus dealt with him. (Matthew 4: 10-11) Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him. First, ths scripture of binding and loosing on earth and heaven does not apply to how we deal with Satan. What Christ gave to Peter was the sealing power of the Melchizadec Priesthood. This power is to seal and loose families in the eternities. It is a special power, and not all have it--only those ordained to such. The said power was given to Elija, or Elisha when he caused that the heavens be sealed against giving rain to the earth. God has also given this power again on the earth to His prophet. Referencing the scripture in Ephesians 2:2, Paul was using metaphore to state that Satan does not have a body of flesh and bone, but is an evil spirit. If you truly want to "bind" Satan, then keep your eye single to the glory of God and perhaps you may become like unto my namesake. Of him it was written: "he was a man of a perfect understanding...a man whose heart did swell with thanksgiving to his God, for the many privileges and blessings which he bestowed upon his people...he was a man who was firm in the faith of Christ, and he had sworn with an oath to defend his people, his rights, and his country, and his religion, even to the loss of his blood...Yea, verily, verily I say unto you, if all men had been, and were, and ever would be, like unto Moroni, behold, the very powers of hell would have been shaken forever; yea, the devil would never have power over the hearts of the children of men." May you become like unto him, a true disciple of Christ. May you seek for the Church that has been restored is my prayer. In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother Kenneth J. Boone	posted 5/21/05 10:30 PM       Thank you Jim, and I appreciate the fact that you made an attemt to give me insight to this scripture. However, you were clearly out of context, and to the other gentlemen who made an attempt as well, I do appreciate your explanation. Again, your interpretation is incorrect as well. God has been gracious to me since I posted this question. Through much prayer and studying, it has been revealed to me the correct interpretation of the scripture. When Jesus made reference to binding and loosing in the scripture, he was indicating to Peter that what ever you allow on earth, will be under obligation to be allowed in heaven. The idea that of a contract. Jesus was putting emphasis on the fact that matters are to be dealt with in accordance to the word of God, and nothing more or less. When you allow sin to go on and not put it in it's place, you are saying to that person that what they are doing is okay. We have been given the power to forgive and retain sins. Context always rules interpretation. Therefore, because the text simply deals with "WHEN A PERSON SINS AGAINST HIS BROTHER (CHRISTIAN BROTHER)." You may say, "well how did you derive at that conclusion?" Well, it's simple (remembering that context ALWAYS rules interpretation), the book of John 20:23 explains in context everything about the question that I needed answered a couple of months ago. If anyone lacks wisdom. Let him as of God, who gives freely to all men. God did it for me, therefore, he can do it for you. Be well and very careful that you don't teach based on your own intuition because the blood of those individuals' will be on your hands. Thoroughly exeget all text and definitly live the life. If you live it, it will show when you speak and teach, because you'll be teaching in context. Again, I say be well. Brother Kenneth J. Boone, Sr. of God's Will, God's Way Ministries of Buffalo, NY at kboone150@sprintpcs.com. put
Alikospah	posted 8/26/05 0:01 AM     An example of binding and loosing that I have seen is smoking. There is nothing in the Bible about it and it is ruled legal and acceptable by our societies. Yet we know it corrupts the temple, our bodies. Our minister providing he teaches truth and is a true believer, can rule against smoking and then when one smokes knowing it has been "bound" by a believing minister, can be said to have sinned by not abiding by this binding.
blunt menchley	posted 5/25/06 1:22 PM       [This message has been edited on 11/07/2006]
janet Swink	posted 11/2/06 4:42 AM       I have been researching this for quite some time now and I found this and I would like to share it. In Matthew 18:18, of course, Jesus said, "Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven." Some people interpret this to mean that Jesus was telling us that we have power to "bind" the devil or his demons, or to "bind" sickness or poverty and to "let loose" health and wealth. In fact, if one looks around it is possible to find ideas of "binding" of all sorts of things in the name of our Lord among even the most sincere of Christians. But we must now put all such enthusiasm and emotion behind us and seek for a truly Scriptural perspective on this subject. The authority to 'bind and loose' was given specifically to the original disciples in Matthew 18:18 with regards to spreading the Gospel to the world before the final revealed will of God was compiled into written form (that is, in the form of the completed Bible canon which we have today). At that time the apostles and the 70 evangelists were empowered to make major decisions regarding evangelism and also regarding honest disputes among Christians (which were bound to arise in such a pressurized situation). To fully get the context, we need to consider the section of Scripture from Matthew 18:15-22. The context of Matthew 18:15-22 appears to show us that 'binding and loosing' is most appropriately applied to solving disputes within the early Church although it could extend a little beyond that where the apostles needed to make decisions whilst in the front line of preaching the Gospel in those very early years. Now, first of all, let us consider whether we may attempt to 'bind' Satan himself. There are some big problems with this idea of "binding Satan". We could start off by saying that this is hardly logical because if Christians could truly bind him then surely Satan would be continually bound - and if he were continually 'bound' there would be no need for continual requests! The lack of logic in all of this strongly suggests that some very sincere Christians might be misunderstanding something pretty important here. There is no biblical support for Christians binding Satan but - the really great news is that Satan has already been bound by a mighty angel on the authority of Jesus Christ Himself at the commencement of this age of the Church! Don't forget, Jesus had said, 'How can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? And then He will spoil his house' (Matthew 12: 29) Jesus presents us with a picture of Satan being like a strong man who must be bound in order that his house can be plundered. This was the result of the authority granted to Jesus at the cross. Jesus was as good as His word and Satan was restricted so that the preaching of the Gospel could be effective! Compare Matthew 12:28-29 with Luke 10:17-20. In Luke's account of the strong man being bound, the strong man is represented as armed and guarding his palace or residence. But once disarmed by a stronger opponent, he is deprived of his spoils (Luke 11: 21-22). Christ's claim, then, is crystal clear. He has 'bound' Satan and can plunder his house at will. Satan cannot successfully resist Christ. Satan is bound by the cross of Christ. There the serpent's head was crushed and the forces of evil routed. So certain was Christ of victory as He went to His cross that He could say emphatically, 'Now is the judgement of this world; now shall the prince of this world be cast out' (John 12: 31). Please notice that the authority granted to Jesus necessarily resulted in the restriction on Satan. Read Matthew 28:18-20. Also, please notice that this happened at the cross! Of course, Satan still has certain power but he is restricted; a vicious dog on a leash can be distinctly dangerous if one foolishly gets too close, but he is nevertheless restricted in scope. The devil cannot prevent the people whom God is calling from being added to the Church during this age of the Church due to this restriction which has been placed upon him, yet he remains vicious. Yet the message of this is that Christians cannot bind Satan because Christ has already bound him. So the direct influence of Satan on those who come to Christ can be just about ruled out; only lukewarm 'stragglers in the pack' who foolishly wander into the path of this 'dog on a leash' are at risk (Ephesians 6:10-11; 1 Peter 5:8-9). Yes, Satan loves to roam and prowl for the weaker members of the flock - but only within his restricted parameter.
Tristan Gurnox	posted 11/6/06 4:04 PM     [This message has been edited on 11/07/2006]
boomer	posted 12/20/06 12:21 AM     Charles B. Williams, The New Testament: A Translation: says Quote: "The perfect passive participle, here referring to a state of having been already forbidden [or (a state of having already been) permitted]." A. GREEK: DEO – you bind – past tense B. GREEK: DEO – be bound – past, perfect tense A. GREEK: LUO - you loose – past tense B. GREEK: LUO - be loosed – past, perfect tense The perfect tense in Greek corresponds to the perfect tense in English, and describes an action which is viewed as having been completed in the past, once and for all, not needing to be repeated. Jesus' last cry from the cross, TETELESTAI ("It is finished!") is a good example of the perfect tense used in this sense, namely "It [the atonement] has been accomplished, completely, once and for all time." Matthew 16:19 (Amplified Bible) I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind (declare to be improper and unlawful) on earth [NOTE] must be what is already bound in heaven; and whatever you loose (declare lawful) on earth [NOTE] must be what is already loosed in heaven.
boomer	posted 12/20/06 12:22 AM     Author Jason Dulle writes: The words translated "bind" and "loose" are from the Greek deo and lyo, which are themselves translations of the Aramaic asar and sera. This was the Jewish formula for excommunication and reinstatement. With this historical meaning in mind, then, Peter was given the authority to bar entrance into, or allow entrance into the kingdom based upon one's confession of faith in Jesus Christ as the Christ, the Son of the living God. Peter did just that throughout his ministry. He allowed entrance into the kingdom to the 3,000 on the Day of Pentecost who believed his message (Acts 2:38-41), and Cornelius' household because of their faith (Acts 10). He barred access into the kingdom to the Jewish leaders (Acts 3) and Simon the sorcerer (Acts 8) because of their unbelief and unpure hearts. The phrases "shall be bound in heaven" (estai dedemenon) and "shall be loosed in heaven" (estai lelumenon) are perfect passive participles in the Greek text. The fact that these verbs are passive in voice indicates that those who are indicated by ho are to receive the action, not participate in the action. As we shall see momentarily, it is God who delivers the action. The English perfect tense can not adequately convey the meaning of the Greek perfect. The way it is commonly translated in English versions gives the pseudo-appearance that the binding is future in reference. This is not the case. The Greek perfect tense views the action as being completed in the past, but with continuing effects, reaching into the present. A more correct translation, then, although awkward in the English, would be "is having been bound" and "is having been loosed." Whenever the Greek perfect tense is used, one must ask himself why the author chose its usage over the aorist tense, which is the most basic tense utilized to show what has happened in the past. Although the perfect tense also deals with action in the past, it goes beyond that by showing that the completed action still has effects continuing on into the future. In a sense then, the perfect utilizes both the past and present tenses simultaneously. The Greek future verb meaning "he/she/it will be," estai, immediately precedes both participles in question. Jesus' point was that in the future (after the inauguration of the church at Pentecost) Peter would bind or loose in the present something that was already bound or loosed in the past, and continues to remain bound or loosed by God in heaven. The perfect was used instead of the aorist to present the event as one that has effects for the present (occuring when we bind or loose in the present) but was already settled in the past (God's judgment to allow or bar one from His kingdom based upon their response to Him in faith). Whatever was to be bound or loosed would not begin with Peter's initiative or the initiative of any other, but with the initiative of heaven (heaven is a Jewish euphemism for God). The church is to carry out the decisions made by heaven. Heaven isn't obliged to ratify the church's decisions. Jesus wasn't giving Peter the authority to arbitrarily allow some people into the kingdom of heaven and prohibit others. Peter merely pronounced those 'admitted' whom the Father already admitted because of their faith in Jesus Christ, and pronounced 'barred' those whom the Father already barred because of their unbelief.

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