|Author||Topic: TRAVEL TECH II|
posted 6/23/01 8:47 AM
Travel Tech I is archived.
posted 6/24/01 8:41 AM
What I find interesting about the whole situation, as I sit here burning the last of a stick of genuine Indian incense in my burner, is the way this group (the Ongs Hat ashram), despite their seeming ignorance of the occult tradition, managed to stick at it long enough to break through with a mix of techne and organic substances.
Despite the acrobatics that have been displayed with respect to intrigue and deception, I am still confident that as individual researchers we can still penetrate the veil thoroughly enough to offer some kind of solution to re-acheiving the activities of I&OH.
However whether this is the ultimate goal is questionable. I myself, temporarily outside looking in and occasionally throwing comments in on the side, seem to see the goal as attainment of a non intuitive (and at once, intuitive) knowledge of the universe, in the same way the ancients of the great Mystery Schools through initiation came to a definite knowledge of the Spiritual world and the processes governing Nature. This knowledge would further evolution in general, in the way that other tools have in the past. However in order to truly further us and not create a condition of co-dependence, the tech should be ideally only used in order to 'train' the initiate (if such a word can be used).
In the 1st document they spoke of other races that had eggless travel and their system was totally natural and not dependent on tech. What all this seems to remind me of actually is the Merkabah technology spoken of in Hurtak's "Keys of Enoch". Given that Hurtak speaks what he called 'the language of light' (in other words a slightly modified version of the twillight language), perhaps some of the keys to eggless travel can be found in comparitive examinations of his work with other stuff in the field, particularly kabbalah and the work of Fred Bell.
posted 6/24/01 2:47 PM
(As you guys know, I have a database which metaphorically resembles my 93 year old grandmother's attic - chock full of arcane and wonderous "stuff".} Anywho...I saved this post and re-read it often. It was posted by email@example.com. (I wish you would contact me!) and I believe was posted on the old MPC board. It reflects my wavering thoughts on these matters and addresses both the esoteric and chemical issues. I particularly like this quote "the real trick of switching universes is using the gravitational pull of another active intelligence". Hmmmm......:
It aLL depends on your definition of these ambiguous concepts. other dimensions? according to mathematical description, any multiplicity of dimensions exists at every point throughout the universal structure. can you be in a one dimesional space or two dimensional space without also existing in the third? even if you aren't aware of it, you're there! so, to assume that just because we might not be attuned to sensing these extra-dimensional spaces theorized by modern physics, by the sheer fact that we exist in this space, we exist in all these multiple dimensional spaces as well. the six extra curled up tightly - within the conventional 3(4, counting time). point being, why don't we see them? we shut our eyes to them! where are they? how do i access them? for thousands of years, the most reliable methods have been deep and profound meditation, but this takes years of training and much dedication to achieve even moderate sucess with. a "shortcut" developed by other cultures involves the use of plant "guides" to show us these spaces. on a purely nueral chemical level, the differences do not exist. thought is an electro-chemical process, and for these "drugs" to have any effect on us, our brains need to have receptor sites capable of matching up with the molecular structure of various ingested chemicals. the difference between these two lies in ease of repeating an experience. as long as you have steady access to a suplly of your prefered chemical, the chemical dependancy is not an issue. look at our current experience with coffee addiction! meditation is prefered by some because of the ease of repitition - no outside source is needed. myself, I have combined these techniques, and thru the views gained thru use of "dangerous" chemicals, have shown my brain what to look for, then with the use of meditation, have re-accessed such states. i can only attribute the ease i can slip into such a mindset now with experience gained from "artificial" means. but to believe the experience only rests in chemicals or meditation misses the point the experience itself makes, and demonstrates a lack of real understanding in what is going on. the experience is everywhere. what is a dimension or reality or universe, other than a definition given by a constituent intelligence of said system? the real trick of switching universes is using the gravitational pull of another active intelligence. learning what makes them tick, and applying it to your own life. you will not experience the same life in the same way if this technique is properly understood and applied.
posted 6/24/01 4:40 PM
Can you share some of the more pertinent links or info in your database...?
Is this all web related material?
posted 6/24/01 5:07 PM
How Synchronistic! Yes, I have been compiling (boxes from the attic - LOL!) the database for awhile now and will be putting it on the site soon (fingers crossed). I will also be sending a lot of the links (mainly UFO and I&OH) to Denny at DP for his database. As you can imagine, it is massive, but it will be be comprised of People (A-Z), Science/Tech (fringe), Conspiracy (links), Related Info (which will probably include the esoterica/mystical links) and Misc. that "might" not fit anywhere "yet", and links to discussion groups and general paranormal info sites. Most will have URL links, and links to Amazon for the books; and brief (in some cases) synopsis of people/organizations, etc. (That's the time-consuming aspect)
Thanks to everyone who has graciously contributed the links found on "Free for all" and "Travel Tech" and in other threads. You know who you are!!
posted 6/24/01 7:13 PM
i met someone who during a trip became convinced that he had come here with a bunch of others and that he had gambled away the universe. he also seemed to have been using stuff coming from me in order to define what he would do / say - and then i think he tried to convince me that this was somehow my doing (possibly he may have been counting on a belief in YCYOR to such an extent on my part). the thing is, he definitely wasn't human, and was entirely unlike any ETs / aliens / etc. i have ever encountered or have recall of having encountered, and he really did seem to have sought me out as though having locked-onto some signal / thoughts i had emanated. i don't think that he really came from another universe - i think he said that because he knew i would write it here and elsewhere. what is important about such things is that they do not mean you are more important than anyone else ; what happened is that i saw how the empire / BIP whatever/ actually operates, and it works primarily as a thinking-disorder. whether this chap really believed that there was a story-line / purpose of our meeting is irrelevant ; he was playing on thoughts of mine in order to lengthen his time with me - the basis of why he would do so is the thinking disorder itself whether he programed it on his own or had it implanted. looking back on it from now i can see at which point he reacted to this.....does anyone have a cure for other people having a messiah-complex about someone else ? cause this chap is obsessed with what i think and seems to believe that he is a part of me, despite not being a part of my existence. (i decided that i'd had enough when his 'fiction suit' kept dissolving, and i realised that all i was interacting with was a distorted reflection of my future thoughts and actions, possibly designed to make me guilty about it as though i had somehow brought him into existence. (yeah, i must've imagined the possibility and conjured him up - or so he'd want me to think. that's the thing about YCYOR - taken literally it means that there is only one person who must've imagined all the others. what better way to annihalate the concept of oneness than to take such a ridiculous idea as true...)
WYGTYA - Wherever You Go There You Are. they hate that one, because they hate who they are, which is why they invent things like dark-halfs, evil-twins, opposite energy forms, ad naseum. Anything so they don't have to realise that they are an individual self and that no-one else has anything to do with that.
posted 6/25/01 5:08 PM
as per the monkeyboy repost. I agree that things such as meditation and drugs are tools/tech which can help you if used appropriately.
so why are we so attached to 3D? Well, I think that it has to do with our perceptual apparatus. Consider that we have 2 eyes which more or less triangulate onto the object of perception. Likewise, we have 2 ears, nostrils, arms, legs, brains (since left and right are so often considered as separate). So if would seem to follow that left+right=object and left+right+object=3D. Am I oversimplifying?
posted 6/25/01 7:39 PM
it could just be that we are trained to only respond to the 3rd dimension ; i'm sure that if you are raised by and are around people who know about other different realities and that things like magic(k) are real, then you will grow up and develop comfortably with this.
i mean, a kid with an imaginary friend - if this friend is actually a being on a different dimension then the kid under 'normal' circumstances will be encouraged to look away or otherwise pretend that the friend doesn't really exist, which will either lead to a split in consciousness at a later date or will leave them dead inside (ok, they may be lucky and know someone who will let them keep it as a secret while they know it's real, but this is still way too much pressure for anyone to be expected to deal with.)
posted 6/25/01 8:06 PM
So if dimensional capacity is learned, what happens when a kid grows up w/ people who have accessed higher dimensions but rejected them for consensus reality or just pretend that it isn't real?
posted 6/25/01 10:18 PM
i don't think it's learned, it's inherent (i mean the potential is there). environment would determine how it would be utilised and experienced. despite past lives i think everyone comes in pristine again and other factors determine if old histories repeat.
posted 6/28/01 10:00 AM
and so here I was, a traveller and wayward fool, trapped in Skull Castle. Rather a spiffy name for it, don't you think? Here, alone receiving nourishment only from a stream that flowed from below, I languished here in despair for four years.
Near the end of the first year, I was visited by a blinding flash of light which, when my eyes adjusted (being as I had not used them in so long) shewed to me the form of a large egg. I felt suddenly as though I were a baby, cocooned in the womb of my mother, safe from the outside illusions of despair.... the egg surprisingly was painted with the motif of a bull.
The second year, a snake managed to find its way to the surface. A fearsome and loathsome creature it was, difficult to control. Yet I managed by a flaw of luck to strike upon a manner of doing so, by wrapping it around my body from thigh to heart. At that point, lulled by the warmth of my body and the pulse of my heart beat, the snake went to sleep.
The third year, a man visited me who I did not know, and asked me many strange questions. He seemed verily much like the Discordian chimpanzee who once asked my relative Greg Hill, 'Gentlemen! You have nipples. Do you give milk?' He never seemed to stop talking, and often beat me around the head with a stick. I finally managed to calm him and gain his attention - not with ritalin, but with a rubiks cube which I remembered I had in my pocket. The cube reminded me in many ways of the Jewish cube of space, funny how these symbols all melt into one another huh?
The fourth year I was by Mithras, the great lion headed sun god. His radiance filled me with joy, even though I knew logically such creatures could not exist outside the realms of story telling.
'Mithras!' I exclaimed excitedly, 'what have you come to do?'
'I have come to set you free,' he grinned, his head morphing in such a way that he looked nothing like Lawrence Fishburne. 'You live too much in your head. Now, you are going to learn how to sore into the sky and visit parallel universes - all without the help of anyone else'
'Gee whiz, how am I going to do this?' I asked, quite excited. 'Through tantric masturbation' he replied, quite seriously.
'You see, in todays world, people are so fed up with the flight of capitalism away from what they perceive as spirit, that they turn to many different outlets instinctively to find relief from the desert of the real. Why do you think that art and music, and all other aspects of culture are seeing such a rapid outgrowth in popularity?'
I considered this briefly as he went on. 'As a result of the growth of the information explosion, the complexity of the economic ecosystem has growth so much that people are now spending most of their lives living in their heads, and entrenched in their work. Many of them feel the need for balance but do not see the way out. Don't you see? The preoccupation with sex in Western culture stems primarily from our desire to re-experience this lost world of grace and happiness we have lost by living trapped within our heads - just as you are trapped within your own castle.'
And so it was that Lawrence Fishburne, or Mithras Abraxis disguised as him, taught me the secret art of release from the chains that bound me to the room in the bottom of the castle. And I am sure I would tell you every graphic detail of that wonderful story of Morpheus and his mistress, but as we live in PG time I must leave this tale for another day.
And so I sored, far away into other worlds, learning many things. And I was pleased, for I had come Full Circle without having to listen to a single Michael Palin Monty Python gag.
posted 6/28/01 2:38 PM
i don't live in PG time. who here does ? are there youngsters here ? (mind you, that would explain a few things if there were...)
you are right about what you say.
first off the existence of the chastity belt and it's legacy is the stuff of primal abberation of life itself, and just goes to show how you can not only decieve people about what God really is but also manage to convince them that God will also punish them if they play with themselves. exacly how fucked in the head do you have to be to believe that ?
second, you raise a very telling point at the end - not only do some people have a problem with masterbation but the only way they can deal with their inner emotional reaction to it is to (sigh) turn it into a joke or something of ridicule (admittedly better than saying it is the work of evil or something similar but still only slightly more emotionally mature).
i think the whole British thing about the 'German sense of humour' is part of this - culturally it's as though there is a program to retard the emotional body so it is stuck at giggling-schoolkid or sniggering-schoolbully on a permanent basis, and that the 'German sense of humour' is a symbol of an outlook on the world sans (without) embarrasment. (especially about stuff that is just another thing that happens - ie, masterbation would only be an issue with someone who was not from this planet and didn't know about biology and animal behaviour and also found it either silly or repellant; or it is an issue with someone who has been programmed by evil religions. what i mean is, if by reading what i have wrote you find anything funny in an embarrassed sense (or worse of all, you are one of those roog fuck ups who thinks this is a trap so you can ridicule people (joke's on you, fuckwits)) then you have an enourmous amount of growing up to do AND you also have the task of locating your real child within (who doesn't have enough of an ego to get embarrassed by nature). cause you are stuck in brat mode, and forever will you stay there.
bunch of wankers.
posted 6/28/01 6:02 PM
I know what you mean, I found my inner child a long time ago and beat it...would that account to pedophilia?
posted 7/3/01 2:45 AM
On this site
I wonder what the "couple of interesting schematics" is about.
I see one points to the same carvings people have been using since Von Daniken as "proof" of aliens visiting us in the past and so forth.
The other points to a image that comes from the recently released Xerox images on www.incunabula.org.
I notice in the notes on incunabula it says - "This "schematic" is an artisitic rendering, added by the publisher of Edge Detector and does not exist in the original brochure. Anyone who's read the catalog and brochure would be able to recognize that this image in no way represents the vehicle described in those documents."
I'm wondering what the point is. Does the owner of this site post here?
posted 7/3/01 3:06 AM
...It's also considered a possibility that the Mayans switched frequencies to another vibratory level...not tying to sound "new agey" here...but maybe there is a connection between both schematics
after all..!? "The Incunabula Catalog" and "Ong's Hat Brochure"..are just suggestions of higher levels of data correlation..nothing set in stone or metal...so if the ship/egg fits..wear it.
I don't meme any harm but we shouldn't confuse the map(documents) with the territory(science)..
Old saying (China);
"the finger points at the moon...but it is the moon which is the subject of inquiry...not the finger"
"Keep your eye on the donut...not the hole"
posted 7/3/01 5:12 AM
I mean no harm either. Maybe I said it wrong. I can see the physical similarities between the two pictures so I guess the real point is that the Edge Detector artist used the Mayan carving as a inspiration? My reading of the Incunabula documents would suggest that the Egg was a 2 person craft. I was only asking to determine if I was missing something. Thanks.
posted 7/7/01 5:09 PM
hi folks...luv all these sites..anyways im writing about a problem im having in my experiments...first off im using sympathetic vibration acoustics ie: John Worrel Keely...and am having trouble producing his "trexar" wire needed to connect two pieces of matter together to manipulate...ive tried rolling sheetes of the elements,then weighing, making machined "molds for each element, and finally magnetic attraction using dust and a negative attractor to make wire... the wire in question must be in the center silver or female receptive,surrounded by gold the male projector, and finally wrapped in platinum the dominant Each of these must be according to atomic weight exactly in Thirds.....any ideas you may have on this i would appreciate greatly...thanks
posted 7/8/01 6:19 AM
Sierra, I'm sending your post over to DW. I think you already have the URL for his discussion board. He is DA MAN!! (SMILE) and hopefully, can point you in a good direction or offer some insight. Best of luck.
posted 7/26/01 2:51 PM
Sierra try electroplating time and current determine the amount deposited and you can have as complex a layering as you want . me i'm thinking of a flanagan neurophone idea for a psi-amp with additional magnetic coils like theyre trying to do quantum computers only this wil put a brain in the loop as the QC or it will be the best electroshock machine ever built and maybe i won't remember that night in Wisconsin 21jun 1988 12:59:57.2 when all hell busted loose in me they did eggless travel, my chakras did a good imitation of a "warp core breach"
i have been trying to figure out how to travel like that way rather than the kinky tantric orgy stuff cause those folks into that just treat me like crap constantly amd wont share any info.
posted 7/26/01 3:08 PM
I'm sure Sierra is grateful for the tip. Thanks, Mooncat.
BTW, was this experience in Wisconsin different than the one in California? Was it at the autonomous village which is associated with Hakim Bey? (Can't recall the name, sorry.) Are you going to identify these Travel Cults you keep mentioning? Why not, they can't do any more damage than they already have, can they?
Metamorphosis of a Cultural Mythos
posted 7/27/01 1:22 AM
hahah an electroshock brain machine?lol well seriously i never thought of that..thanks so much for the tip...im off to the dryink chalkboard and schemin up some schematics for the timing circuit and possible ways to make electroplating setup that would allow me to stop flow of material when i need it...sorry i havent been on here to see post but ill try more often...been really busy building the race car.. (i tore up the transmission last weekend) ;-) old pontiacs never die..they just get faster...im going to try your idea Mooncat...thanks so much...do tell more on the brain scan machine...if i were to have "outputs that could be registered, and fed into a computer, then by all means i could "talk my way in there to myself" using prerecorded tapes that went off when i hit THETA state...when i was hooked up to computer...but this is really needed as the subconcious likes to float around too much...(no direction) unless i had those tapes firing off at "predertimened times" ie set into my computer program running the whole setup...with an emergency "wake up sequence of course" ...always have a back door when it gets outta hand i always say....thanks everyone for your input...im off to the drawaing board...
posted 7/27/01 2:32 PM
as to Harla's question i was in northern ca and couldnt get ride to hwy so i walked 45 mi straight ended up totally by chance collapsing in the driveway of a house near Ukiah, guess whose it just had to be, the CAW Mothernest home of the Zells and the Green Egg office. when i get my travel cult site up this weekend will post detailed everything but while they thought i was asleep buncha folks showed up but no car sounds and they had a meeting outside so i remote viewed. their decision to put me in the nest where they dump folks like me and things like the prison ministry that nobody else wants to deal with. A nest that knew nothing whatever,except for the high priest who had a friend who had told him he was working on a project to develop a stationary gate, a true portal you could take things thru,remember via the egg or eggless method you and yer sweeties arive naked as jaybirds.
when i was forced to seek employment elsewhere to help with bills a 3 week job fixing a sailboat ended up with me held in San Jose against my will the nest thought i'd abandoned them...
then later just after Jerry Garcia died i ended up working with Shawn Alemi of Feed the People the "persian anarchist" Matheny mentions as a cult member.
always had trouble finding lovers and a lonely empath in a sex crazed place like SC and teeming with Deadheaads. But nobody wanted broke homeless me. menages used to get a kick out of doing things in my presence cause it usually caused spectacular epileptic fits or stunning displays of wild psychokinesis. Alemi set up several bad situations purposely one at the city hall vigil involving 7 bisexual tantric musicians from Humbolt ( the "Wringer" or just a torture ) it damn near destroved my mind what they did and wouldnt share with me, empathy is not a gift for me more of a curse. another sit at Panther beach an orgy led by Alexa (a local tantric travel cult leader)of Aunt Netties Teacake fame, (all the streetkids loved her) need we say the rubbed my nose it it again then shit on me. see why i hate all the Tantrists ive met to date.
why cant they just share at least the sex part. i DO NOT HAVE 2 HEADS AND GREEN TOEJAM
currently here in ohio am starting to try and contact local Elyria Nest (crooked river nest) wish me luck.
sometimes i wish i could just borrow Montauk go back in time and stop my trip to Wisconsin in 1988.
mostly just want a good tantric orgy group, travel training ... what i rightly deserved in the first place
at the gathering in WI they just let me convulse instead of having somebody sexually ground me. an OTO person told me that was very wrong for them to handle it like that.
posted 7/27/01 2:43 PM
i am designing a neurophone based circlet with a 38.4kc (Flanagan Neurophone and bearden both recommend 38kc) quartz crystal metallized in a pentagram pattern and connected to things similar in principle to the radio set modulators described on the "montauk" chair in Peter Moon's books. with a lot of my own enhancements...portable Montauk
trouble is i suffer from effects similar to those of the sailors on the Eldridge in the 1943 experiment
anybody building delta t antennas cool the coils with liquid deuterium ... ask anybody knowledgeable about NMR (nuclear magnetic resonance)
posted 7/31/01 7:42 PM
well i just decide that since the tantrists will not share with me to just quit magick altogether, time to feed all the lab notebooks to the shredder and smash up everything.
church of all worlds is the weakest link goodbye
|The Caustic Gnostic||
posted 8/26/01 3:01 AM
Check this one out
Very interesting research into modern physics
posted 9/10/01 3:23 PM
Regarding the "egg" I myself did some research within an egg. But this was the Floatarium 2 people float chamber with lines in and out to monitor various feedbacks. It sure as hell looked like an egg.People experimented with various sustances while hooked up to various brain wave inducing machines just to see what would happen.Maybe we had the the wrong stuff!!! Nick (herbert) also has a book out on poetry out that he says gives up a lot of info concerning the required state. Yours for $20. The strange thing was I got mine from him in USA to me in small place in Wales UK in 3 days. So its quantum post now is it!
posted 9/10/01 7:29 PM
Physics on All Fours is Nick Herbert's book of poetry. Whether or not it "gives out" any secrets would be in the mindset of the reader, I suppose.
Anyway, it's a great book of poetry and IS insightful in many ways. Thanks for the info on the sensory tank you described.
posted 9/16/01 0:36 AM
Travel in sensory deprivation is best achieved through the use of intramuscular injections of DMT. Dosage of, and aquistion of said substance is best left to the user.
Light speed apparently has been broken:
I have Tamale Bake in the oven
posted 12/18/03 3:39 PM
Dear readers, I fully enthousiastic read the travel tech1 topic, about hemi-sync and sound therapy. I'd like to start with sound therapy also, and like to contact Parsifal for it. Though, his email adress seems not functional.
I was trying to contact him to ask for some information and a sample of pink noise, so that I can start with cool edit pro 2000.
Also, I'd like to know if there are any requirements on the headphone.
Thank you very much.
May God bless you all..
posted 12/22/03 10:45 PM
I have had some very nice expiriences with BWGen3.1. It seems the pink noise can be generated inside the cool edit and bwgen programs. Does anyone have presets for Awaking, Rising or stimulating the Kundalini?
May God bless you all.