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| Author | Topic: Luke?????? |
| Darth Tine |
posted 12/2/02 1:56 AM
Ok, So I was looking at the new "topic" that ILYIK put up and I started to think. I do a lot of that you know, brilliant as I am:). When Luke, Wedge, and Biggs start their run through the trench thing, Luke is in charge. Why??????? Wedge and Biggs had at least twice his experiance. Biggs might know Luke, but Wedge didn't. Why trust a newcomer, whos skills had yet to be tested, with such an important job? It sounds fishy to me. |
| Aims |
posted 12/2/02 9:44 PM
You know that is a very good question... with no good answer, at least not that i know of, it'll be interesting to see what others have to say about the matter!!! Could it be that the harder job was protecting against the enemy fighters, as we see it's the back two that get hit first, so it's the more dangerous of the tasks perchance then it's given to the more experienced fighters. Yes shooting the death star to pieces is improtants but tis' not exactly hard to aim a targeting computer...i don't know |
| sandra |
posted 12/2/02 10:51 PM
good question. maybe Wedge and Biggs didn't have as much experience as you think. we know biggs left for the rebellion just the day before Luke left. he probably took a more direct route, but he might have been with the rebellion for as short a time as a day when Luke came. and Wedge could have arrived just when Luke did for all we know. and maybe with three inexperienced pilots, Luke just took the leadership role. the guy's a natural leader, what can we say? no wait, that's Han Solo. i guess Luke is too. |
| Aims |
posted 12/6/02 7:39 PM
But Biggs had experince flying ships before, he was at the academy wasn't he? And luke had never flown a spoace ship before, just a speeder! Is that right? |
| iloveyouiknow |
posted 12/7/02 1:15 AM
Wrong. Luke had flown before. Remember the part where he says "We used to hit wamp rats back home in Beggar's Canyon back home. Their not much bigger than 2 meters"? There is no way that you could take a speeder through beggars canyon. He did it in his Incom T-34 Skyhopper. It behaves very similar to the Incom X-Wing Starfighter in atmospheric conditions. I'm also fairly sure that Luke had flown out of the atmosphere before. Remember the remark "I'm not such a bad pilot myself..." Although he could have just been refering to his Skyhopper adventures... |
| sandra |
posted 12/7/02 10:49 PM
i believe he had a T-16 Skyhopper. |
| iloveyouiknow |
posted 12/8/02 4:30 AM
Your right. Sorry. Stupid mistake. |
| Aims |
posted 12/8/02 7:48 PM
ooohhh!! I'm just like the know nothing of this group! (it seems very weird to me to talk to people that actually know more than me!!) I got the impression he hadn't been in a space ship before, okay so you could do beggars cannon in a speeder, my mistake and i didn't know he had a skyhopper but i don't think he'd actually flown in space, (don't know what give me that impression) but what ever he hadn't flown in space battle. Biggs must have having been in the academy, or at least simulated. |
| Darth Tine |
posted 12/11/02 8:05 PM
I seem to remember that Wedge joined the rebellion at least a few years before Yavin. Even if Luke had had experiance flying in space(which I sincerly doubt) Wedge did not know him at all and would have to be really trusting to give such an important job to Luke. I would have trusted my own skills more than those of a hotshot newcomer. |
| Dark Death dude |
posted 12/12/02 0:21 AM
It was a good idea though. It was probably Jan Dodanna's fault. |
| Aims |
posted 12/13/02 12:15 AM
So nobody liked my idea that luke had the easier job then? - You know we claim to love star wars so much, and yet we all seem to delight in picking these holes we find to shreds, why is that exactly? |
| Dark Death Dude |
posted 12/14/02 2:05 AM
What kind of holes are we picking at, out of curiosity? |
| Dark Death Dude |
posted 12/14/02 2:28 AM
I'm asking that for yuor sake, not mine. I already know the answer to that. That was for you less knowledgable people who call yourselves "Star Wars Fans." |
| iloveyouiknow |
posted 12/14/02 5:32 AM
Not me. I'm a Star Wars Freak. |
| Aims |
posted 12/16/02 0:18 AM
Okay, fine they are obviously not holes we just don't get it. That better for you? - and you can't be that much better than me coz you don't have the answer to any of this either!!! - or if you do you aren't telling, which is unaccountably mean... sniff... I like to be thought of as a star wars freak as well, fan is just... not quite... i don't know... |
| iloveyouiknow |
posted 12/20/02 8:02 PM
fan sounds to trekkie |
| Da Wookie |
posted 12/31/02 5:19 AM
Yeah, Freak does describe you well, ILYIK |
| Dark Death Dude |
posted 1/9/03 0:18 AM
Or "Loosah." |
| Aims |
posted 1/10/03 4:35 PM
Oh wow we aren't insulting me for once! GO TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| iloveyouiknow |
posted 1/11/03 8:57 PM
DDD's asking for it.... |
| Darth Tine |
posted 1/15/03 2:10 AM
I'm bettin' on ILYIK to win this one. He's buffer than DDD. Even though I didn't think that ILYK could POSSIBLY be buffer than ANYONE! I have to admit.. he is buffer than the buffy. (thats DDD's nickname) |
| Dark Death Dude |
posted 1/24/03 2:55 AM
Got that right. On all accounts. |
| iloveyouiknow |
posted 1/26/03 6:17 AM
who's ILYK? |
| Aims |
posted 1/29/03 2:05 AM
oooh, you got that one right on the nose, that was exactly where you needed to pick at her argument! |
| Da Wookie |
posted 1/31/03 6:22 PM
You know, I was just think about nicknames. Buffy doesn't fit bob at all, I mean what does buffy even mean? now with aims, we all know that short (or long) for amy, and I'm called Da Wookie because I'm tall, hairy, and really strong. (o.k. only the tall part). but buffy doesn't describe bob at all! |
| iloveyouiknow |
posted 2/3/03 11:56 PM
How about puny? |
| Da Wookie |
posted 2/9/03 1:30 AM
What's your defintion of puny? |
| Darth Tine |
posted 3/12/03 0:29 AM
Puny/Pu.ny/n 1.A small horse. 2. An animal ridden by young children. |
| Da Wookie |
posted 3/12/03 7:22 PM
Puny? that sounds more like pony to me. |
| Darth Tine |
posted 3/13/03 4:25 PM
Yeah... That's what I said. |
| Darth Tine |
posted 3/13/03 4:26 PM
Yeah... That's what I said. |
| Dark Death Dude |
posted 3/16/03 4:04 PM
Is that the real discription for a pony? |
| Dark Death Dude |
posted 3/16/03 9:09 PM
Um.... No. But here is the real one: Po.ny \'po-ne\n,pl ponies : a small horse. I did pretty good for guessing, didn't I? |
| Grand Moff Andy |
posted 3/17/03 1:19 PM
Sorry to wander back on topic. Has anyone considered the influence of Princess Leia? On a similar note, did anyone else find the speed with which Han Solo rises to the rank of general strange? Especially as he spent most of his time frozen in carbonite! |
| Darth Tine |
posted 3/17/03 8:16 PM
Ok, I did that last post not DDD. Anyway, back to the topic, I hadn't considered Leia's influence. But when you think about it... They had gone through a bit together, but she had never seen him fly. How was she to know whether or not he could shoot down the death star? Biggs was the only one who could vouch for Luke's flying abilitys. And no matter how rag-tag the rebellion is they took a huge and potentially disatrous risk in letting luke try to shoot down the death star. And why did they even let him fly one of their expensive and much needed x-wings in the first place? After the death star is destroyed only about 4(I don't remember) fighters return to the base, but at the reward ceremony, there are about 40 pilots. Surely one of them would have been a better bet? |
| Dark Death Dude |
posted 3/17/03 9:37 PM
I think because Obi-wan was confident in Luke's abilitys, It convinced the Alliance that he would be the best one to do the task(After Red Leader and Gold Leader, of course) |
| Grand Moff Andy |
posted 3/18/03 2:45 PM
But surely no one in the Alliance ever even met Obi-Wan. I mean, he'd spent the last few decades living on a dust-ball in the middle of nowhere, where everyone knew him simply as senile, eccentric old Ben the hermit. Clearly, Bail Organa (Leia's father) thought highly of Obi-Wan, which is why he instructed his daughter to seek him out but it seems pretty clear to me that no one had seen or heard from the old Jedi in a long, long time. There even seemed to be uncertainty as to whether or not he was still alive. |
| Dark Death Dude |
posted 3/19/03 3:47 AM
Leia did see him on the Death Star, but that was just a brief moment, plus she never even got to talk to him. Luke was probably arrogant and used the force to control the minds of the Alliance officers so he could be in the spotlight of the galaxy. |
| iloveyouiknow |
posted 3/19/03 5:53 AM
You guys are all looking up the wrong sewage pipe.
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| Dark Death Dude |
posted 3/19/03 11:15 PM
Interesting view, my young padawan. (Sewage Pipe?) |
| Dark Death Dude |
posted 3/19/03 11:15 PM
Interesting view, my young padawan. (Sewage Pipe?) |
| Da Wookie |
posted 3/20/03 1:27 AM
I think that luke was already a decent pilot, probably better than most of those that didn't go up. he had a lot of experience flying his T-16 and bulls-eying Womp Rats. Even anakin didn't have as much experience flying as luke. |
| Dark Death dude |
posted 3/20/03 4:37 AM
That's probalby right. After all, Biggs did say Luke was the best pilot in the outer rim. |
| Da Wookie |
posted 3/20/03 3:00 PM
What's this topic about anyway? I can't remember. |
| iloveyouiknow |
posted 3/20/03 4:49 PM
Plus the fact that almost everything about the T-16 was identical to the X-Wing except that the X-Wing was spaceworthy. |
| Dark Death Dude |
posted 3/20/03 7:23 PM
With a few modifications, a T-16 could be spaceworthy too! (And DW, read the first post.) |
| Da Wookie |
posted 3/21/03 7:35 PM
Well, with a few modifications, the Falcon could have been spaceworthy, too. (he he) I think that Luke was definitaly the decisive factor in the battle of Yavin. without him all of the major players in the rebellion would have die along with Yavin IV. He (along with han and chewie) was the reason that the Death Star was Destroyed. |
| Dark Death Dude |
posted 3/21/03 8:24 PM
If Luke didn't blow up the Death Star, then there wouldn't be a V or VI. |
| iloveyouiknow |
posted 3/25/03 7:46 PM
If Han and Chewi hadnt blown up the tie fighters, the TIEs would have blown up Luke and Luke would'nt have blown up the Death Star |
| Grand Moff Andy |
posted 3/26/03 1:39 PM
You guys should visit my 'What if?' History thread |
| Dark Death Dude |
posted 3/27/03 10:20 PM
I think I already have. |
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