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| SST80 |
posted 6/20/05 12:59 AM
I am often appalled by the plethora of organizations professing ownership of the truth. Come join us, come worhsip our lord, follow our system and you will find eternal bliss and salvation. Salvation from what? What we need is salvation from our eternally chattering minds which we seek to fill with ever more knowledge so we can sound intelligent or impress gullible people who are out there in the world blindly seeking something without knowing what they seek. I suggest to you all that we live in one of the most beautiful places on the face of this earth so just go out there and enjoy it. Take a walk in the woods without your IPods and listen to the sounds of nature, watch the abundance of life around you, simply observe without comment, don't allow the mind to come in and begin labling all that you see, ah what a beautiful oak tree, what a pretty vireo, how sweet the sound of that mocking bird, doesn't the rush of this stream just turn you heart to butter and gladden your soul. While your mind goes on with it's eternal chatter you will have missed it all. Oh and while you are at it why don't you take a bunch of pictures, maybe make some recordings so you can go back home and enjoy it all second hand. Sorry, there is no substitute for the real thing. It cannot be bottled, labled, categorized, photographed. what you will be in possession of will be simply mind stuff. My understanding is too many of us wast our lives reading scriptures, watching videos, listening to recordings of bird songs watching the master instead of looking where he is pointing. womever your spoiritual guid is I am trusting that he never intended for you to get life second hand. He did not so why should you? What exactly made him the master in the first place? Do you honestly believe Jesus or Buddha or whomever you worship got his wisdom out of a book? The books are all about the master.Words cannot capture his essence but you can if you will simply live your lives to the fullest and stop this eternal taking of everything second hand. |
| Lady Passion |
posted 6/20/05 4:25 PM
While I applaud 'read less scripture/be more in Nature's' overall philosophy, I remind them that this view is already the main tenet of Asheville's area Pagans and Wiccans. More so, we don't worship one Lord or God, but many God/desses. Our concept of Bliss is to hike out and camp and immerse ourselves in Nature at her most wild. We spurn Ipods in favor of "the real thing". Blessed be, Lady Passion, High Priestess, Coven Oldenwilde oldenwilde.org |
| Isa |
posted 6/20/05 6:30 PM
Let me begin by saying that what I am going to express is not better nor worse than what anyone else has said. However, for me, it does not matter what you do. You can listen to your ipod all day long. You can walk in woods all day long. You can do whatever you want. The secret to what you are doing is two fold. First, be aware of what you are doing, and second, be total in what you are doing. If you are in the woods without awareness of the moment, then you have missed. If you are listening to music, playing tennis, engaging in sex, or writing a comment for the Internet, and you are doing it without awareness, you are asleep. If you are doing anything, and you are not total in it, then you are asleep. Of course, being asleep is not bad either. It is just another way of being. In fact, there is no way that is better or worse than any other way. There have been enlightened Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, and so on. It is not what they believe that is important. It is the sincerity, totality and awareness that they put into it. you can do art, music, sex, watch television and still be a being of totality and awareness. Once again, what you do is not the important aspect of life. What is important is being here and now, being total in what you are doing and doing whatever you are doing with awareness. As for what is real and what is not real, only the mind makes that distinction. A photograph is just as real as a tree. The only difference is that one is a tree, and the other is a photograph. They are both real, and they are both truth in the moment. The moment a judgement is made, whether it be that something is right or wrong, good or bad, natural or unnatural, beautiful or ugly, sinful or godly, and the list goes on, a world of duality is created. This duality prohibts one from being here and now, from being total and from experiencing awareness. Remeber the words of Richard Bach in "Illusions", "And even this may not be true." http://www.i-am-now.com Inner Awareness Mastery NOW is a coming together of east and west. It is a joining of cognition and spirituality. It is a process by which you use your mind to go beyond it into NOW. It is a new approach to looking at your life and who you are. |
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Virato (Moderator) |
posted 6/20/05 7:56 PM
Beloved Isa, Welcome to this forum, and well stated, and to you as well Passion. I shall enojy watching the mind's elasticity, intermingled with soul essence...from all viewpoints in this forum. Be sure to call me on the radio and/or computer every Saturday, 10 AM to Noon Eastern US time.. Now on with the posting.... http://newfrontier.com/asheville/the-revolution.htm Asheville's Conscious Radio Program |
| SST80 |
posted 6/21/05 1:54 AM
To Isa, You too are offering a system. do you fel a system of some kind is needed to reach spiritual enlightenment or can one, as I suggested, find it in nature? I have heard that there is really nothing one can do to make this happen, that it could happen while one is involved in any number of activites, perhaps playing tennis, dancing, gazing into the eyes of the Beloved or simply "sitting silently, doing nothing the spring comes and the grass grows by iteslf". |
| adamkade |
posted 8/11/05 11:55 AM
I have found it in a nrivana song I have found it in a prayer I have found it in a storm I have found it in my tears and my deepest sorrows I have found by the side of a tree and inside a tree I have found it within the eyes of my children,in the eyes of my Mother, Brother, sister and dog. I have found it in a picture I have found it in my own eye as I look in the mirror I would find it within my ipod (If i had one!) I have found it in a tv programme. I have found it in the most most beautiful places of the Earth and yet also I have found it in beneath the steal edge of a sword...and in the loudness of a bomb All I know is that the Supreme Spirit is real. That he/she is the God of all and creator of all, and that every great being would say "Do not give me praise, instead give him the praise"...all religion is one religion merely different aspects of the same thing. and that sometimes violence is necersarry in order to protect that which you hold what is most dear. |
| CuriousGuest |
posted 2/3/06 1:57 AM
This is such an intelligent post. Thankyou. Ihave often thought the same thing. Jesus/Yeschua and BUddha learned by doing! And if we are following in their footsteps we should do the same. Namaste http://purple.forumwise.com forum of the purple kind... |
| Estra Berosini |
posted 12/23/06 0:55 AM
Right on, SST80, and it's delightful to read Lady Passion and Isa. There are many ways to get there, where ever there is, which might be here.Let me insert another phenomenon: All the activities described work very well in quieting the chatter of the left brain hemisphere. It's an essential chore doer but the spirit avoids it like the plague. The right brain hemisphere might be our doorway to all things amazing beyond it. It's just a short cut to where ever you go when you get there. All The Best, Estra (my real nickname, first time tonight at this site, from Vermont, but I'll be in NC soon.) |
| Geraldine |
posted 12/24/06 6:59 AM
Anyone up for roadkilled buddha for lunch? Bodhidharma said "There is no god. There is no merit in 'spiritual' exercises. There is nothing sacred. So don't go around stinking of zen." Somebody pass the mustard....buurp... |
| Estra Berosini |
posted 12/28/06 6:46 AM
Hi, Geraldine, good to know someone's still using this site; and with a sense of humor. |
| Geraldine |
posted 12/28/06 10:09 PM
Estra, you're so kind dearie; I hope your trip to Asheville goes well. |
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