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Author	Topic: NCRA Sprint Rookies
10r	posted 3/5/08 5:53 PM How many guys are racing for rookie of the year in NCRA in 2008?
Kenny	posted 3/7/08 6:48 PM None...!!!
fan	posted 3/7/08 9:22 PM Why would anyone want to run for ROtY in NCRA when they consider guys like Don Droud jr to be rookies. That guy was racing 410 cars a decade ago.
sprints sux	posted 3/13/08 2:14 AM ha and who wants to run sprints anyway they suxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
David Smith Jr	posted 3/13/08 6:14 PM Hey fan, your an intellegnet person, guess you read where Droud is running for rookie of the year honors this year for ASCS right? Geez how can somebody like ASCS consider a veteran like Droud a rookie? (and to explain myself so things don't get twisted as they do in this area, that was sarcasim) http://www.oklahomatidbits.com
???????????????	posted 3/15/08 4:22 PM How can you compare the ascs national series to the ncra?
sprinter	posted 3/18/08 4:07 PM You Can't , There is not even a close comparison.
racefan	posted 3/19/08 0:18 AM sprint car is boring
latemodelfan	posted 3/27/08 2:23 AM I guess they do compare, once you look at the added pay.
sprinter	posted 3/27/08 2:01 PM Maybe the pay on the bottom end now that etahanol has stepped up,but still cannot compare NCRA with ASCS on a prestige level as well as the competition level.
latemodelfan	posted 3/28/08 1:51 AM Yea, it's just to bad that with all that competion and prestige they can't pay as much on the bottom end. You know taking care of the average racer that may one day be the next Gary Wright or Travis Rilat.
David Smith Jr	posted 3/28/08 4:28 AM Yes there is a vast difference and no comparison of NCRA and ASCS. ASCS is a full-time deal and almost for the racer who wants to do that as a full-time job. Some also use it to launch their careers into the WoO or even broader. NCRA, which by the way has been around since 1971, was established back then for the weekend racer with races maybe two or three times a month-no more. And then the series visited each track at least two times a year. All for the weekend racer who wants to travel a little and still be able to go to work or the field on Monday morning. There is no problem with that. Some of you may have either a beef with NCRA or a hidden agenda but if you want to toot ASCSs' horn, go to their message board and rave all you want to. And that is deserving as right now they have it going on. But don't get on here and put down that of NCRA that prides its drivers and affiliated tracks instead of trying to be THE thing in sprint car racing. http://www.oklahomatidbits.com
r fan	posted 3/28/08 1:23 PM How many (engine) rule changes has there been in ASCS vs how many rule changes in NCRA since 1971?
sprinter	posted 3/28/08 3:28 PM Latemodelfan, No need to pay at the bottom end when your getting around 40-50 sprint cars at a show,as for NCRA they have not seen a 40 plus sprint car field in quite a while and as for taking care of the avg. racer that one day might be the next Gary Wright as you put it, Then explain to me why ASCS continually gets 40 plus cars at its shows and NCRA struggles to get 30 , when your at this level with 53' tractor trailers , spare cars and motors and now $4 Gal. deisel , that extra $200 will not make or break them at that level, if ASCS teams are worried about $200 then they need to sell those $100,000 plus haulers and get them a 28ft trailer and 1 ton and go back to local level racing, It is all about EGO,Prestige, and self promotion and if that is not the case then why do WoO guys show up to run ASCS , cause they know they will get publicity out of it and $3,000 to $5,000 if they would win , it's not for the added money at the bottom.Lighten up there Mr. Smith , have no beef with NCRA , it is a fine Regional org., just adding to the statement ?????? poster said and I don't believe in the statement I put down NCRA .besides back in the late 80's NCRA had a chance to be "The Thing"as you state , but they chose to go in a different direction instead of staying unified in rules with the Area tracks.r fan, NCRA motor changes since 7170's to early 80's 312 carb.mid 80's 360 Injected for the Champ Dirt CarsLate 80's IMCA Claimer type stuff for Sprint Cars.90's and early 00's several different steel head rules.Last couple of years ASCS rules.As for ASCS engine rule changes since 92Same Alum.Brodix head and same Cubic Inch limit,just done away with the intake gasket rule several years ago. That might say more than anything. Emmit stayed consistent with his rules and not changed them and NCRA has not.
OKCFan12	posted 4/7/08 10:18 AM I don't think there is a lot to pull from in Kansas anymore. at leats not as much as other areas. Look at Oklahoma - yes we have more sprinters than Kansas - a considerable but not drastic difference. A big difference has to be the emergence of 305's in the Kansas area. Oklahoma does not have that. We have ASCS sprints - and then Champ Sprints and Super Sprints. I thought for a long time that the Supers wouldn't survive just racing 1 track like here in OKC. But they have done exceedingly well. 1 reason for that is I 44 Speedway here in Oklahoma City. Many of the racers I grew watching - their kids raced micros at I 44 and now have moved up to champ and super sprints at state fair speedway. I think that has helped as much as anything. You could put all 3 stocks car divisions together and the 2 sprint car classes still HAVE MORE. stock car racing just appears to be #1 in Kansas. what is left of the sprints has split between 305's and NCRA. For beginners - or rookies - what is a better prospect - URSS or NCRA? easy answer. here in Oklahoma - sprints are still the main thing - but unlike Kansas - we have NO 305's AT ALL. and really no late models either. any late model racing here is on the fringes of the state. In kansas - it APPEARS fromt he outside lookin in that the late mods and modifieds are the 2 biggest classes - with 305's and then 360 sprints. In Oklahoma it's different. sprints are still the #1 thing here. although I will say Mods have really started to flourish here. and thats cool. I'm sprint car fanatic but I like mods too. See ya'll Kansas folks know these things much more than me. I;m a sooner. I;m just commenting from the outside looking in. The largest noticeable difference from my outside perspective - is that ya'll have pretty substantial late model racing - Oklahoma does not. Ya'll also have a 305 following that has only been increasing............we probably don't have a 305 in the state. we have only a small amount of LM or 305's - and anything we do have of those - are mostly on the outer fringes of the state............well JMO. thats a noticeable difference that has nothing to do with C Ray Hall. or anything else folks like to lay blame at.
81Fan	posted 4/7/08 2:24 PM Went out and watched practice on Sunday. A few sprint cars made it out including Forshee, Lehman, Wheeler, Moore, all white car not sure who it was, and a 305 driver Fairbank. Track was dry slick, but the sprints were getting around pretty good on the bottom and middle grooves. Lehman and Wheeler looked pretty good, so might be ones to battle in the front if they run the series full time. I have never seen a 305 race before, but will be there May 4th to see the race. I was skeptical hearing of a smaller engine in a sprint car, but after seeing the 305 out there with the 360's on a dry track they are not that much slower. Later in the day after it looked like the cobwebs shaken out Lehman was just pulling the 305 in a little down the straights and not much. Hope for a large field May 4th as I would love to see a full A-main of sprints go at it. I'm not leaving as a 360 fan nor taking anything away from a 360, just impressed on what the 305 could do. If this gets more sprint cars to the track and some good racing I'm up for it.
sprinter	posted 4/7/08 3:28 PM Tell us OKC with all your wisdom, who is to blame for NCRA having a lack of sprint cars over the last 5 years, Can't wait to hear this one.
alloutracefan	posted 4/7/08 7:59 PM I was there watching the practice and Lehman looked really the last two times he went out. and what ever Forshee did the last time he went out he picked up a considerable amount of time some of the fastest laps of the day. but they were struggling the first few sessions.
alloutracefan	posted 4/7/08 8:06 PM oh and I thought Wheelers paint job looked really good. Him and lehman look like they have alot of sponsor money coming in but forshee didn't have anything but the number you thank it would be awful hard to compete with them guys without a sponsor.
OKCFan12	posted 4/8/08 7:36 AM sprinter - who is to blame?I don't see any one person to blame. and I don't have a ton of wisdom on the matter. just thought Id give the opinion of the obvious. and some food for thought for folks - thought maybe this forum could use some discussion lol. There is a strong LM, Mod and 305 followings up there in Kansas. maybe there is only so much to go around. and I don't think NCRA has done all that bad. 3 heats, a B feature - and a good a feature - what is wrong with that?In Oklahoma the sprints haven't had to compete against 305's yet. When someone is starting out here - its with a 360 Champ Sprint, Super Sprint, or ASCS sprint. not a 305. I'm sure that will change eventually. Also - it's harder for KS to pull as many drivers from Nebraska and Oklahoma that they used to. In Oklahoma there are several tracks and series to run - so teams can stay closer to home and run against good competition for near the same purse.Kansas has NCRA and URSS for series. Oklahoma has the ASCS Sooner Region and OCRS. Missouri has the Winged Outlaw Warriors. Colorado has the RMMA and ASCS Rocky Mountain Region. Nebraska has the ASCS Midwest Region - well so does Missouri too for that matter. Iowa has plenty of racing too. So there are few travelers anymore - b/c there isn't much need to most of the time.This is all pointless. I shoudn't even respond. Because I personally don't see what the big fuss has been about for the last few years. Provided there is a good track surface - NCRA has respectable #'s and respectable shows. I don't know what this year has in store - but in the past few years - NCRA looks ok. Granted all I saw was the 1st and only 3/8ths mile nationals at Dodge City in 05 - along with an NCRA race at Wichits in 06. But I don't think there is a whole heck of a lot of difference between NCRA and the ASCS Sooner or Midwest Regions. This is all just my own personal thoughts. from an outsider at that. As the economy gets worse and worse - and we continue to see the decline of the # of blue collar teams - sprint car coutns everywhere will probably drop. there's only so many kids who have rich parents willing to bankroll dreams of nascar.
sprinter	posted 4/10/08 9:08 PM I knew I would get a long letter type response,LOL
OKCFan12	posted 4/13/08 11:13 PM you must frequent the Hoseheads forums.........lol
sprinter	posted 4/14/08 6:36 PM Yes I do , just wondering how you figure that there is no difference between NCRA and ASCS Reg. series, again waiting on another storybook answer on this one too.
OKCFan12	posted 4/17/08 6:37 AM I don't intent essays - they just happen. lol.QUality is very much in the eye of the beholder much of the time. If lined up against other shows - maybe ncra doesn't look that strong.I'm no one to comment on quality of the cars - but from sideline appreances ASCS appears to have an edge. car count usually higher in the surrounding ascs regions as well. The point I want to make - is that it shouldn't be demeaning to NCRA or any of its drivers. They get a lot of criticism - but it's not like they have had 8 cars the last few years. they still have had a few heats and a good A Main. The quality of the racing has as much to do with track surface as anything else. I don't know what this year has in store for NCRA. but in the last few years - its been a very respectable show (track conditions allowing). Just as ASCS has regions - NCRA is a regional series that runs in 1 state. but in and of itself it has done ok. if it is not up to some folks standards - maybe the problem is not with ncra but with their standards. but like I said - I don't know what this year will be like for NCRA. I just think when a series can put together 3 heats, a B Main, and an A Main - they ain;t doin that bad. lol. If folks are lookin for more - they need to move to a hotbed of sprints. like Ohio or Pennsylvania.
sprinter	posted 4/17/08 5:54 PM Maybe you should write a book,LOL
hsd4	posted 4/17/08 8:15 PM preferably one with lots of pictures.
OKCFan12	posted 4/18/08 6:13 AM why? essays are better.
sprinter	posted 4/18/08 1:16 PM Better yet just use Cliffs notes.LOL
rookie	posted 4/18/08 8:59 PM blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10r fan	posted 4/24/08 2:21 PM It looked to me like Wheeler was the fastest car on the track before the caution. He passed some fast cars before the first caution. Keep it up Wheeler, you will get there.Robe spinning out during the warm up lap was pretty funny...No offense.Everyone have a great week and lets do it again this weekend!
REAR WHEEL	posted 4/24/08 4:19 PM WHEELER SUCKS!!!!
rightfront	posted 5/5/08 11:29 PM after the first night of NCRA Sprints whats the thought of rookie of the year now?
kent	posted 5/5/08 11:33 PM woodruff!!
rightfront	posted 5/6/08 1:14 AM Kent your a real bright one. Woodruff wasn't very fast from what I hear.
rightfront	posted 5/6/08 1:24 AM I'm still for WHEELER
Wyle E. Coyote	posted 5/6/08 5:42 AM I think Droud jr will win rookie of the year. It will be the 1st time anyone has won it back to back. Go Droud, NCRA will let you.
Sprint Fan	posted 5/6/08 8:26 AM Wyle E. Coyote...Don won the ROY last year because it was his first full season with the NCRA..It does not matter how much experience you have in previous years. Any series is like that as long as you do not run a full or half of the schedule races(i think)then you can still be considered a rookie. Last year was Don's first season with the NCRA and that is why he was given ROY. Quit bashing a good driver like him just because he has experience. He met the qualification to be a rookie in this series and it was not by his choice....let it be he was the ROY last yeah and this year someone new will be crowned. Forshee for ROY and Drown, Droud, or C.J. Johnson will be the champion this year
Wheeler ROCKS	posted 5/6/08 4:58 PM WHEELER smoked all the rookies last week and they got it coming this week to
Fan	posted 5/6/08 8:52 PM To me it looks like cody forshee will be rookie of the year. He is currently sitting in 7th for points and finished way above all the ROY contenders. He would have did alot better but the track dried out and was really fast it looked as if he may have got shook up when a couple of cars went around him he should be fast week to week with his brother josh working on the car
Fan	posted 5/6/08 8:56 PM Also there were only two other people running for ROY last year and the where ASCS Rocky Mountain drivers...I just as well see it go to someone who runs a full schedule and I am sure if someone else ran a full schedule don droud would have given it up not like a NCRA ROY is something special to him he is probably one of the best drivers in sprint car racing

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